The making of Mrs Ward
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I absolutely wish, with all of my heart and soul, that this was the case. But I'm 100% sure that it isn't.
It's more likely something I've done.
I don't think that I have any chance of making her a hotwife to be honest. I don't think that there is any circumstance that she would cheat on me. She doesn't find other men attractive.
It's more likely something I've done.
I don't think that I have any chance of making her a hotwife to be honest. I don't think that there is any circumstance that she would cheat on me. She doesn't find other men attractive.
"But... She went away for a week. Before that she was wearing the anklet, talking dirty, using positions she'd not used before, sex was amazing, she was dressing slutty etc. She came back different."
Where did she go?
Where did she go?
She just went visiting relatives. It is possible that she fucked someone but I think it's unlikely.
I think I know what the change is about.
She says that I am either too passive and touchy and slow, or too fast and rough with her. I told her (again) that she should find someone who can make it like she wants it. That triggered a conversation in which she basically accused me of wanting to get with other women.
I tried to assure her that isn't the case. I don't think she was buying it though. She eventually told me to stop talking. She took over control and we went on to have sex which was great sex from my point of view. I got to lay back and watch as she rode my cock in a variety of flexible and athletic ways. (The first time she has done that since she went away.) I eventually had her cumming real hard but she didn't get the sex that she wanted. The sex where she is submissive.
All of the sex that we've been having lately. The sex which has been bang average. The sex that she has been complaining about. Has all been where I am in the dominant roll. In fact, looking back, Most of the great sex that we previously had was with her in charge. All the crap sex was with me dominating. Although there was also some great sex, with me dominating, when I thought I had her fantasising. So I think there are two things going on here.
One, she wants to be dominated. I am basically a sub so that's not something I can do very well. This is not a bad thing from the potential hotwife point of view.
Two, she thinks all of the things that I've said to her, hinting at, or (just before her behaviour change,) actually suggesting getting another guy involved, are about me wanting to lie back and watch another girl grind on my cock. This is a problem.
I think I know what the change is about.
She says that I am either too passive and touchy and slow, or too fast and rough with her. I told her (again) that she should find someone who can make it like she wants it. That triggered a conversation in which she basically accused me of wanting to get with other women.
I tried to assure her that isn't the case. I don't think she was buying it though. She eventually told me to stop talking. She took over control and we went on to have sex which was great sex from my point of view. I got to lay back and watch as she rode my cock in a variety of flexible and athletic ways. (The first time she has done that since she went away.) I eventually had her cumming real hard but she didn't get the sex that she wanted. The sex where she is submissive.
All of the sex that we've been having lately. The sex which has been bang average. The sex that she has been complaining about. Has all been where I am in the dominant roll. In fact, looking back, Most of the great sex that we previously had was with her in charge. All the crap sex was with me dominating. Although there was also some great sex, with me dominating, when I thought I had her fantasising. So I think there are two things going on here.
One, she wants to be dominated. I am basically a sub so that's not something I can do very well. This is not a bad thing from the potential hotwife point of view.
Two, she thinks all of the things that I've said to her, hinting at, or (just before her behaviour change,) actually suggesting getting another guy involved, are about me wanting to lie back and watch another girl grind on my cock. This is a problem.
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Ok so yesterday I told her I needed to tell her something and we had a conversation. I basically told her that she is free to do whatever she likes. Effectively she is in an open relationship whilst for me the doors are closed. Which is what I want. I've locked and barred them. I will be monogamous.
She sat on top of me laughing and just shrugged it all off. Later on in the evening she said that she'd been worried about what the conversation was going to be about and it 'turned out to just be bullshit'.
She was affectionate all evening. Lots of hugging and kissing.
What should I make of this reaction?
She sat on top of me laughing and just shrugged it all off. Later on in the evening she said that she'd been worried about what the conversation was going to be about and it 'turned out to just be bullshit'.
She was affectionate all evening. Lots of hugging and kissing.
What should I make of this reaction?
I don't think she is interested..... I think she is hot? Tell her I said so too. lol
"She sat on top of me laughing and just shrugged it all off. Later on in the evening she said that she'd been worried about what the conversation was going to be about and it 'turned out to just be bullshit'.
She was affectionate all evening. Lots of hugging and kissing.
"Before that she was wearing the anklet, talking dirty, using positions she'd not used before, sex was amazing, she was dressing slutty etc."
Why not go with all that? Ask her just to play along with your kink. Say it is embarrassing but the idea of sharing her gets you going. Didn't hurt with her too. Remind her about the anklet, dressing slutty and how it led to amazing positions and sex. Suggest she acts as if she's playing even though she isn't. When she goes out for a night with her friends, suggest she stays longer, comes back and gives the impression she's had some fun. Perhaps even tells you a story she makes up to feed your kink. See where that leads.
Secretly, though, each time she comes back from a night out, keep checking the panties as you did earlier, and perhaps one night you'll see some traces.
That's how my own play with one guy's wife was discovered to his excitement.
She was affectionate all evening. Lots of hugging and kissing.
"Before that she was wearing the anklet, talking dirty, using positions she'd not used before, sex was amazing, she was dressing slutty etc."
Why not go with all that? Ask her just to play along with your kink. Say it is embarrassing but the idea of sharing her gets you going. Didn't hurt with her too. Remind her about the anklet, dressing slutty and how it led to amazing positions and sex. Suggest she acts as if she's playing even though she isn't. When she goes out for a night with her friends, suggest she stays longer, comes back and gives the impression she's had some fun. Perhaps even tells you a story she makes up to feed your kink. See where that leads.
Secretly, though, each time she comes back from a night out, keep checking the panties as you did earlier, and perhaps one night you'll see some traces.
That's how my own play with one guy's wife was discovered to his excitement.
When she comes home, either say you need to "clean" her, or if she wants you to be more dominant, say you have to "reclaim" her. Get her involved to play along, so she looks forward to it. One night she'll remember you gave permission and act on it to surprise you.
Your wife obviously loves you and the lifestyle you have together.... don’t keep suggesting that she does things that you want her to do. She will live her life if she feels in control.
From experience, my wife’s reactions seem similar to yours. She doesn’t like to be how I would like her.....wearing stockings and bedroom lingerie, dress sexy in public, flirt with men when we’re out together without friends or go find a lover. My wife also gets concerned when I discuss anything that’s to do with sharing her.
She just wants to be herself.....
Be vanilla in bed one day, then be a slut in bed another time.
She’ll wear a bikini, go topless, wear a bathing suit, go naked, depends on her mood and environment.
Go out with her girlfriends and come home early
When out again she maybe be home late, then sometimes she’ll plan to stay away and come home the next day.
If you suspect her of having sex with others, ask her in a nice caring way, you maybe surprised by her answer as I did.
From experience, my wife’s reactions seem similar to yours. She doesn’t like to be how I would like her.....wearing stockings and bedroom lingerie, dress sexy in public, flirt with men when we’re out together without friends or go find a lover. My wife also gets concerned when I discuss anything that’s to do with sharing her.
She just wants to be herself.....
Be vanilla in bed one day, then be a slut in bed another time.
She’ll wear a bikini, go topless, wear a bathing suit, go naked, depends on her mood and environment.
Go out with her girlfriends and come home early
When out again she maybe be home late, then sometimes she’ll plan to stay away and come home the next day.
If you suspect her of having sex with others, ask her in a nice caring way, you maybe surprised by her answer as I did.
"Your wife obviously loves you and the lifestyle you have together."
Yes I think you are absolutely right. But I think that there is hope. Since I told her that she has a free pass we've been having sex at least every other day. I've been struggling to keep up. I've been faking orgasms. She always cums hard. She asked me after one session recently if i was going to suck my cum back out of her pussy. I didn't. (There wasn't any.) In the morning I told her that I would if she really wanted me to. She said that she was joking and that she can't think of anything more disgusting. She did think of it though. With no prompting or hinting from me. She's also been pinching my nipples and talking about putting electric nipple clamps on me.
Just this weekend she initiated a really steamy session and I couldn't get an erection. She was literally dripping wet and I couldn't give her cock. This has obviously upset her and she is now scared to initiate anything in case it happens again. Whilst I was upset about it I'm now seeing this as a golden opportunity. I told her, later that night, that I can only get an erection if I take viagra and that I've been taking it all the time. I told her that I'm not going to take it any more and that I want her to find someone else to have sex with. She accused me of 'playing mind games'. I'm not sure what she meant by that.
Going forward I'm planning to stop having sex with her altogether. Erectile dysfunction. Not prepared to take viagra any more. Can't do it. I'll carry on making her feel sexy and turning her on. She's away at a conference with work soon. She'll have gone from having sex 4 times a week to having had no cock for a month. So hopefully her pussy will be dripping and in the meantime I'll keep encouraging her to take another man's cock.
Yes I think you are absolutely right. But I think that there is hope. Since I told her that she has a free pass we've been having sex at least every other day. I've been struggling to keep up. I've been faking orgasms. She always cums hard. She asked me after one session recently if i was going to suck my cum back out of her pussy. I didn't. (There wasn't any.) In the morning I told her that I would if she really wanted me to. She said that she was joking and that she can't think of anything more disgusting. She did think of it though. With no prompting or hinting from me. She's also been pinching my nipples and talking about putting electric nipple clamps on me.
Just this weekend she initiated a really steamy session and I couldn't get an erection. She was literally dripping wet and I couldn't give her cock. This has obviously upset her and she is now scared to initiate anything in case it happens again. Whilst I was upset about it I'm now seeing this as a golden opportunity. I told her, later that night, that I can only get an erection if I take viagra and that I've been taking it all the time. I told her that I'm not going to take it any more and that I want her to find someone else to have sex with. She accused me of 'playing mind games'. I'm not sure what she meant by that.
Going forward I'm planning to stop having sex with her altogether. Erectile dysfunction. Not prepared to take viagra any more. Can't do it. I'll carry on making her feel sexy and turning her on. She's away at a conference with work soon. She'll have gone from having sex 4 times a week to having had no cock for a month. So hopefully her pussy will be dripping and in the meantime I'll keep encouraging her to take another man's cock.
how often does she do this? is it to a city where she lived previously? any old BFs nearby? where did she stay? with family or hotel?
pete
Keeping my cock out of her didn't work. She didn't put up with it and after a month or two of less sex we are now back at 12-15 times a month.
She still says that she only want me and that she isn't interested in other men. Whenever I drop hints, (like telling her about a dream where she was having sex with someone else,) she tells me that it's weird and she's not interested. A while ago, during foreplay, she asked me why I 'always bring up someone else'. She said that I 'push it too far and break it'. I'm not sure what she was referring to I have stopped hinting.
I had pretty much given up hope and then last week (out of the blue) she asked me why I hadn't bought her any crotch-less knickers. I told her that was because, when I had mentioned them to her ages ago, she had derided them as weird and she said that was not interested. She denied ever having said such things. This is bullshit. She definitely was not interested and definitely called them weird. Still I'm happy that she has performed this u-turn and I am exited to buy her some crotch-less knickers. I expect that she will just wear them in bed with me but I will work on daring her to wear them for a night out with the girls. She already wears her anklet on those nights, rare though they are these days.
I think she really does only want me and that she really isn't interested in other men. I don't think she will ever be a real Hotwife. But maybe come summer I will be sat at home of an evening. Whilst she is out with the girls, wearing the short sexy summer dress that I bought her, crotch-less knickers, and an anklet, knowing that she is free to do whatever she pleases with anyone that takes her fancy.
At least I will know then that I have done all that I can.
She still says that she only want me and that she isn't interested in other men. Whenever I drop hints, (like telling her about a dream where she was having sex with someone else,) she tells me that it's weird and she's not interested. A while ago, during foreplay, she asked me why I 'always bring up someone else'. She said that I 'push it too far and break it'. I'm not sure what she was referring to I have stopped hinting.
I had pretty much given up hope and then last week (out of the blue) she asked me why I hadn't bought her any crotch-less knickers. I told her that was because, when I had mentioned them to her ages ago, she had derided them as weird and she said that was not interested. She denied ever having said such things. This is bullshit. She definitely was not interested and definitely called them weird. Still I'm happy that she has performed this u-turn and I am exited to buy her some crotch-less knickers. I expect that she will just wear them in bed with me but I will work on daring her to wear them for a night out with the girls. She already wears her anklet on those nights, rare though they are these days.
I think she really does only want me and that she really isn't interested in other men. I don't think she will ever be a real Hotwife. But maybe come summer I will be sat at home of an evening. Whilst she is out with the girls, wearing the short sexy summer dress that I bought her, crotch-less knickers, and an anklet, knowing that she is free to do whatever she pleases with anyone that takes her fancy.
At least I will know then that I have done all that I can.
In my humble opinion, you are trying too hard. You have expressed your desires and fantasies with her, you have given her permission to play when and where she wants too, with who ever she wants too,. If she wants too, she will. My wife and I started out much the same way with me being the one suggesting we try things and telling her I want to watch her with another man. Once she realized that it was just about sex and not me looking to find another woman, things took off like a rocket. Now we have a regular couple we play with 2-3 times a month... be patient
Thanks. I pretty much have come to that conclusion. I'm not pushing at all now. The crotch less panties thing came from her.
I agree. I also would love my gf to cukcold me. But I do not find it interesting if it is only because I push it. I really do think you should give her some peace, space and time. At the end of the day, it does not make sense if she does not wish it.
So what happened? you asked her and she turned out to have been fucking others?
I hope you are right. I am finding it difficult. I wish someone would seduce her and fuck her.
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