Subtle ways to start.

I’ve been subtle trying to talk my wife into it, but it’s not going very good. She said she was going to think about. Then she got mad and at me for even suggesting it. How dare I even suggest anything like that she said, I told her it was because I want her to experience pleasure and it was something I’d love to see as well. She told me I’m enough and I just told her I was just trying to help her out, she said if I wanted more dick or anybody else I would just go do it I don’t need your help getting more. She then later said it’s not a point her life she wants to try or do at the moment, So yea don’t think it’s going to happen for us
I hate that for you. Atleast you tried. Ive already given up and didnt even make it as far as you did.
 
I hate that for you. Atleast you tried. Ive already given up and didnt even make it as far as you did.
Well I’m bummed I won’t lie something I really really gave a lot of thought about before coming to her about it. I wanted something for us to both love and spice up stuff again. Definitely made me out to be the bad guy for wanting her to get more, but I think sometimes her ideal or wild is for less then won’t I consider being wild 😂
 
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Well I’m bummed I won’t lie something I really really gave a lot of thought about before coming to her about it. I wanted something for us to both love and spice up stuff again. Definitely made me out to be the bad guy for wanting her to get more, but I think sometimes her ideal or wild is for less then won’t I consider being wild 😂
Thats true for me also. Wild to my wife wouldnt be wild to many people im sure
 
I’ve been subtle trying to talk my wife into it, but it’s not going very good. She said she was going to think about. Then she got mad and at me for even suggesting it. How dare I even suggest anything like that she said, I told her it was because I want her to experience pleasure and it was something I’d love to see as well. She told me I’m enough and I just told her I was just trying to help her out, she said if I wanted more dick or anybody else I would just go do it I don’t need your help getting more. She then later said it’s not a point her life she wants to try or do at the moment, So yea don’t think it’s going to happen for us
Yes I have been there also , was your wife a bit of a slut in her past ? , would you say you are kinkier than your wife in regards to sex and have you experienced kinkier partners before your wife ? .
 
I hate that for you. Atleast you tried. Ive already given up and didnt even make it as far as you did.
I can relate to that totally - just decide to let it go and then something is said or I notice something out of the norm for my wife which re lights the fuse lol
 
Yes I have been there also , was your wife a bit of a slut in her past ? , would you say you are kinkier than your wife in regards to sex and have you experienced kinkier partners before your wife ? .
Prob in past yes she was a bit of a slut, I’m definitely kinker then her and have experienced linker partners yes
 
Prob in past yes she was a bit of a slut, I’m definitely kinker then her and have experienced linker partners yes
I am exactly the same and your first post has a lot of similarities with my wife - I was a dirty bastard etc because I had a 3 some ( I was single ) and dabbled ( twice ) with swinging with my ex . Years before I met my wife - sex should be only between man and wife and all that bullshit that makes you believe you’ve married a nun 😀 . Then you find out she fucked her sisters guy , her ex work colleague , was messaging and chatting to an ex and in her words - ‘had a lot of cock ‘ so the mrs nuns habit slowly slips - perhaps we are just used to kinky horny women so expect all to be like that and can’t do / have normal sex - that’s what I am told and am made to feel abnormal because of that . She lets slip that this guys asked for her no , that guy told her he wants to see her naked etc etc , so if that attitude is correct then why the fuck does she feel the need to tell me about them ? - is it to gushed my interest to put me down yet again - does she secretly want to do it but doesn’t want me to think she’s a slut - can’t be that because she is well aware of my desire to share her ( I have the scar to prove it lol ) so what the hell is going on ?????
 
So what is your wife’s take / outlook on it all and is her past ever mentioned , does she watch porn , dress sexy etc - everything is always down to me / my idea - what about you ?
 
Yeah give it some time, if you have kids she may become more comfortable as the kids get older or on their own. But in the mean time dirty talk with her when the moment is sexually charged and steadily bring up the subject. Steadily bringing up the subject does' t have to be by you bringing up the subject this can happen by watching the right movie/ series/ documentary etc. Back when my wife was at the "no way" stage, I would still dirty talk with her while having sex and we would watch the HBO series "Real Sex" together.

The series really started to open her eyes on some of the kinky sex going on by couples and groups. She would sometimes make comments like that's gross or I can't believe she would do that, but sometimes we would have sex after watching an episode and her pussy would be already wet before we even started, so I knew she was getting turned on. Recently we started to watch the HBO series "Minx" and she was very turned on by all the cock they show. She even made the comment to me while watching one episode that the series would be better "if the guys were turned-on when naked" I asked what does she mean and she said "if they were walking around nice and Hard."
 
So what is your wife’s take / outlook on it all and is her past ever mentioned , does she watch porn , dress sexy etc - everything is always down to me / my idea - what about you ?
Yea I found out with her ex husband when they lived together he made her mad she started fucking there neighbor secretly, but she don’t talk about it. She used to be little more spontaneous but now she more routine. I have seen txt her of her boss being little overly friendly
 
Well if I bring anything up about sex and especially swinging /3 / sones etc my past is used against me but her past is conveniently brushed aside and she did mention a show on tv called naked attraction , I suggested we watch it together for a laugh but that was rapidly dismissed but seemingly ok to watch same show with her ...... ( 27 ) who was aiding and abetting her when she was chatting to a guy - he would message the ...... on Facebook , then if coast was clear call my wife , so I have that to deal with too 😕
 
Mine just acts like never interested in anything I’m pretty sure if she was she’d tell me.
Yes I get that totally - if it wasn’t for us guys they’d never put out - mines professes to never having watched porn of any kind because ‘ it doesn’t do anything for her - why would it turn her on watching other people fucking or whatever - her exact words on the subject . But at the same time it’s ok to fuck your sisters man or the married boss at ex work - see what I mean - she just doesn’t add up
 
Yes I get that totally - if it wasn’t for us guys they’d never put out - mines professes to never having watched porn of any kind because ‘ it doesn’t do anything for her - why would it turn her on watching other people fucking or whatever - her exact words on the subject . But at the same time it’s ok to fuck your sisters man or the married boss at ex work - see what I mean - she just doesn’t add up
Maybe she likes the taboo or gas taboo kink, my wife has watched porn with me, she likes the student teacher stuff or massage going sexual and some parody stuff
 
Maybe she likes the taboo or gas taboo kink, my wife has watched porn with me, she likes the student teacher stuff or massage going sexual and some parody stuff
Ah I see , well I have attempted to have a browse with her just to see but no taboo stuff , but maybe that might be an idea -usually within a couple of minutes she will say - is that going anything for you ? - it’s doing nothing for me really dismissive like . She has guys nos on her phone and one calls her on / off but she would never dream of saying if something was happening - in fact years ago the same guy said if she ever wanted a 3 some to give him a call but that again was dismissed
 
Ah I see , well I have attempted to have a browse with her just to see but no taboo stuff , but maybe that might be an idea -usually within a couple of minutes she will say - is that going anything for you ? - it’s doing nothing for me really dismissive like . She has guys nos on her phone and one calls her on / off but she would never dream of saying if something was happening - in fact years ago the same guy said if she ever wanted a 3 some to give him a call but that again was dismissed
Are you assertive with her or timid
 
why beat around the bush . Communicate, let her know your desires and fantasies. Watch cuck porn together. Really don’t think being subtle about will help you get to where you wanna be. Good luck
 
why beat around the bush . Communicate, let her know your desires and fantasies. Watch cuck porn together. Really don’t think being subtle about will help you get to where you wanna be. Good luck
I told mine what I want exactly and had her watch it
 
Are you assertive with her or timid
Neither one way or the other I suppose , she is quite a strong willed person and mostly sees things from her own perspective be it good or bad , I usually try and see things from someone else’s point of view but that can change depending on what it is if that makes sense lol - I don’t think she would respond positively to being dominated in the bedroom - I had an ex who was really sub and into s/ m so have experience there but most things are only if I mention it - her sex drive is flatline lol