If your wife refuses to become a hotwife, how do you fulfill your fantasy?

Sometimes just keeping quiet is the best option..
Yep, that's the lesson I took from it.. If she knew the depraved shit I've done she would probably die of confusion.. Her big issue seems to be that she doesn't understand the concept of why a man would want to be submissive sexually and the cuckold thing really seemed to short-circuit her senses.. This is really strange because before we got married, she was all about kink and swinging and stuff and while we never actually did anything with other couples, we did try a couple of times (got shot down), so I assumed it would happen someday.. After marriage, she just went the frigid route.. It's occurred to me that she was just a lie, a marriage trap.. She needed security and I was her best option, so she dangled the hook.. Just my opinion, but because of it, I have zero ZERO zero guilt about cheating because in my mind, I was cheated out of the life I wanted..

And there it is, I just had to go into that rabbit hole.. When I start thinking about that aspect of things, I start to seethe with resentment towards her..
 
My lovely wife is very open to trying new sexual things, and our sex life is great.. But she has already told me cuckolding is something she definitely will NOT do, and I respect that.. Nonetheless, seeing her take a bigger penis is still my fantasy, so this is what we do as a substitue..

I decided that the next best thing I could do was to purchase what's known as a penis extender (it make your penis bigger and fatter) and surprise her with it.. The first night I used it, I had it hidden under the bed and the lights were off.. When I was giving her oral I put it on, lube it, and once she was really wet I put it in.. She gasp and asked, " What did you do?".. I replied, "Enjoy the moment.. We'll talk later," and began to pound her with it.. It was OBVIOUS she enjoyed it.. She had never moaned the way she did that night..
Afterwards, to my surprise, she said she still prefers to "feel" me instead of plastic, although she did admit she liked it very much.. I told her I would use it only when she felt like it, and she agreed.. After all, the hotwife should be in control.. The first time she asked for it she told me "invite your friend.." Boy that sounded hot!!! Now that is the nickname we use for it, "The Friend.." Unfortunately, she doesn't ask for it as often as I would like.. But it's still better than nothing, and when we do use it, it's evident she feels the difference, and that alone makes me feel like a real cuckold..

If your wife refuses to become a hotwife, how do you fulfill your fantasy?

My wife goes to the gym and there are many muscular guys so I ask her which one interests her the most or which one she finds more attractive and I tell her I fantasize about them while we have sex also sometimes we go to bars she is shy so I buy her 2 beers to be less embarrassing and dance with several guys to see how they flirt with her
 
My lovely wife is very open to trying new sexual things, and our sex life is great.. But she has already told me cuckolding is something she definitely will NOT do, and I respect that.. Nonetheless, seeing her take a bigger penis is still my fantasy, so this is what we do as a substitue..

I decided that the next best thing I could do was to purchase what's known as a penis extender (it make your penis bigger and fatter) and surprise her with it.. The first night I used it, I had it hidden under the bed and the lights were off.. When I was giving her oral I put it on, lube it, and once she was really wet I put it in.. She gasp and asked, " What did you do?".. I replied, "Enjoy the moment.. We'll talk later," and began to pound her with it.. It was OBVIOUS she enjoyed it.. She had never moaned the way she did that night..
Afterwards, to my surprise, she said she still prefers to "feel" me instead of plastic, although she did admit she liked it very much.. I told her I would use it only when she felt like it, and she agreed.. After all, the hotwife should be in control.. The first time she asked for it she told me "invite your friend.." Boy that sounded hot!!! Now that is the nickname we use for it, "The Friend.." Unfortunately, she doesn't ask for it as often as I would like.. But it's still better than nothing, and when we do use it, it's evident she feels the difference, and that alone makes me feel like a real cuckold..

If your wife refuses to become a hotwife, how do you fulfill your fantasy?
they are all so different.. My wife loves sex together and opens her legs and gets on her knees anytime for me.. lucky guy.. i just can't stop thinking about her taking other guys inside her though and especially BBC.. i dont have the confidence to come stright out with it to her and confess my fantasy.. in many ways she is so conservative and i worry she might flip completely.. i got so desperate for another man's cock inside her that I bought some big black dildos and extenders and suprised her with them one time.. I wanted to see if i could spark her interest and give her orgasms that she had never experienced before with me.. i was delighted that she was curious, but i felt she was indulging me a little.. i lubed them up good and proper and tried them on her.. i was a bit disappointed that she really seemed to struggle to take them inside her and found them too uncomfortable (even with loads of lube).. i did pound her a few times with the large black extender but it doesn't seem like it is for her.. 😕maybe it is just too big and the material and rigidity is not quite right? just wondering now how to train her up and get her hooked on big cock
 
they are all so different.. My wife loves sex together and opens her legs and gets on her knees anytime for me.. lucky guy.. i just can't stop thinking about her taking other guys inside her though and especially BBC.. i dont have the confidence to come stright out with it to her and confess my fantasy.. in many ways she is so conservative and i worry she might flip completely.. i got so desperate for another man's cock inside her that I bought some big black dildos and extenders and suprised her with them one time.. I wanted to see if i could spark her interest and give her orgasms that she had never experienced before with me.. i was delighted that she was curious, but i felt she was indulging me a little.. i lubed them up good and proper and tried them on her.. i was a bit disappointed that she really seemed to struggle to take them inside her and found them too uncomfortable (even with loads of lube).. i did pound her a few times with the large black extender but it doesn't seem like it is for her.. 😕maybe it is just too big and the material and rigidity is not quite right? just wondering now how to train her up and get her hooked on big cock
She must be very aroused at the very first time cause, remember, her pussy never took something that big! So, is important go slow, very slow, let her pussy halls adapt to the size, is imperative she need to be very relaxed, then introduce inch by inch and look at her face.. Is very important make her cum, if you do it week she will cum very quick, she never felt so fulfilled and that feeling will stay in her mind like a tattoo! The next time will be easy, and the next, and the next.. You will feel the difference when you fuck her with your own cock! As she will feel too 😉
 
they are all so different.. My wife loves sex together and opens her legs and gets on her knees anytime for me.. lucky guy.. i just can't stop thinking about her taking other guys inside her though and especially BBC.. i dont have the confidence to come stright out with it to her and confess my fantasy.. in many ways she is so conservative and i worry she might flip completely.. i got so desperate for another man's cock inside her that I bought some big black dildos and extenders and suprised her with them one time.. I wanted to see if i could spark her interest and give her orgasms that she had never experienced before with me.. i was delighted that she was curious, but i felt she was indulging me a little.. i lubed them up good and proper and tried them on her.. i was a bit disappointed that she really seemed to struggle to take them inside her and found them too uncomfortable (even with loads of lube).. i did pound her a few times with the large black extender but it doesn't seem like it is for her.. 😕maybe it is just too big and the material and rigidity is not quite right? just wondering now how to train her up and get her hooked on big cock
Maybe she's just not into "big ones".. I found that, for my wife, it only works when she's super horny (after a lot of foreplay and giving her oral), and 7" extender max (she doesn't anything bigger)..
 
My wife is not aware of my interest in sharing her but we have tried an extender just to do something different.. She enjoyed it but never asks for it..
That sounds familiar - sounds just like your average woman tbh - mines in her past was a slut - even fucking her sisters fiancé etc etc - fast forward 25 years and now she won’t do anything during the daytime - has recent libido Alzheimer’s - has left her fucking sex drive somewhere but can’t remember where ( apologies to real Alzheimer’s sufferers ) , always brings up my sexual past against me but hers is not to be discussed ??.. Most women once the ring is on the fucking dwindles away it seems ..
 
That’s why it’s always you who asks to do it or she grudgingly does it ( for an easy life ) but isn’t really into it and they must think we fucking right mugs cos it’s so obvious she’s not really wanting to do it , never suggests anything kinky or otherwise and is happy to just have the missionary once a month pity fuck - women fail to realise men want a dirty slut for a wife even just now and then
 
She must be very aroused at the very first time cause, remember, her pussy never took something that big! So, is important go slow, very slow, let her pussy halls adapt to the size, is imperative she need to be very relaxed, then introduce inch by inch and look at her face.. Is very important make her cum, if you do it week she will cum very quick, she never felt so fulfilled and that feeling will stay in her mind like a tattoo! The next time will be easy, and the next, and the next.. You will feel the difference when you fuck her with your own cock! As she will feel too 😉
I'll try that approach with her.. She needs training i can see.. I guess I just assumed too much that she would enjoy big cock so much and how it would stretch her and fill her up, but as you say, she needs to adapt and change to it.. It feels like this is an important first step to getting her hooked on the feeling of big cock and then we can move onto the real thing one day maybe
 
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Yep, that's the lesson I took from it.. If she knew the depraved shit I've done she would probably die of confusion.. Her big issue seems to be that she doesn't understand the concept of why a man would want to be submissive sexually and the cuckold thing really seemed to short-circuit her senses.. This is really strange because before we got married, she was all about kink and swinging and stuff and while we never actually did anything with other couples, we did try a couple of times (got shot down), so I assumed it would happen someday.. After marriage, she just went the frigid route.. It's occurred to me that she was just a lie, a marriage trap.. She needed security and I was her best option, so she dangled the hook.. Just my opinion, but because of it, I have zero ZERO zero guilt about cheating because in my mind, I was cheated out of the life I wanted..

And there it is, I just had to go into that rabbit hole.. When I start thinking about that aspect of things, I start to seethe with resentment towards her..
Why do you say that? Does she love you? Is there no connection?
 
Why do you say that? Does she love you? Is there no connection?
I guess what I was saying is that she needed security and stability, and was looking to land someone who could provide those things, so while we were dating and eventually engaged to be married, she was all about engaging in sexual fantasies and kinks, and as soon as we tied the knot, she did a 180 and suddenly didn't like sex anymore.. "I've changed".... she says.. "Overnight?!!" I say..
 
I guess what I was saying is that she needed security and stability, and was looking to land someone who could provide those things, so while we were dating and eventually engaged to be married, she was all about engaging in sexual fantasies and kinks, and as soon as we tied the knot, she did a 180 and suddenly didn't like sex anymore.. "I've changed".... she says.. "Overnight?!!" I say..
Have you considered ending it? Not asking to be an ass.. I’m genuinely curious..
 
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I guess what I was saying is that she needed security and stability, and was looking to land someone who could provide those things, so while we were dating and eventually engaged to be married, she was all about engaging in sexual fantasies and kinks, and as soon as we tied the knot, she did a 180 and suddenly didn't like sex anymore.. "I've changed".... she says.. "Overnight?!!" I say..
Yes mate I think that’s called hook line and sinker - or goldigger - I take it you are a high value man ??
 
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I guess what I was saying is that she needed security and stability, and was looking to land someone who could provide those things, so while we were dating and eventually engaged to be married, she was all about engaging in sexual fantasies and kinks, and as soon as we tied the knot, she did a 180 and suddenly didn't like sex anymore.. "I've changed".... she says.. "Overnight?!!" I say..
I have to say, that my response there is oversimplifying everything, it's not that simple.. There's truth there, but there's also a lot more to it, too much to add here.. I could write a novel about our issues and still only scratch the surface, and she's not all bad.. We have found a way to co-exist together, even happily.. Except sex.. That's a topic we just don't discuss anymore and haven't for years.. She generally shuts sex conversation down, or disengages from the conversation by the way of one-word answers and input.. In the end, I separated our marriage and sex (well, she did IMO), so I treat them as such.. Our marriage works at home without sex, and my sex life works outside home without her..
 
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Yes mate I think that’s called hook line and sinker - or goldigger - I take it you are a high value man ??
I wasn't back then, but I guess she either saw my potential or I was the best option to her at the time, which makes sense.... She was living in a relatives' house (shithole) and working a minimum wage restuarant job when I met her.. Didn't drive, didn't have anything to her name, so yeah, I was a knight in shining armor by comparison..
 
I guess what I was saying is that she needed security and stability, and was looking to land someone who could provide those things, so while we were dating and eventually engaged to be married, she was all about engaging in sexual fantasies and kinks, and as soon as we tied the knot, she did a 180 and suddenly didn't like sex anymore.. "I've changed".... she says.. "Overnight?!!" I say..
Mines is a bit different - always trying to be combative - in her past was a slut - now she’s a fucking nun - in 6 years has never suggested we try anything kinky or anything really to do with sex , quote - she’s never watched porn or masturbated or tried different things - but she’s let slip a guy she was seeing was more into fucking her arse than pussy .. Never initiated sex or planned a sexy night - quote - why should I do that ? - it should just happen ! .. She berates me for having a 3 some with a married couple and I was single - but it’s ok for her to fuck her sisters fiancé or 2 other men who were also engaged to be married - the double standards is amazing right guys and gals
 
I wasn't back then, but I guess she either saw my potential or I was the best option to her at the time, which makes sense.... She was living in a relatives' house (shithole) and working a minimum wage restuarant job when I met her.. Didn't drive, didn't have anything to her name, so yeah, I was a knight in shining armor by comparison..
Yes kinda thought so -
 
I have to say, that my response there is oversimplifying everything, it's not that simple.. There's truth there, but there's also a lot more to it, too much to add here.. I could write a novel about our issues and still only scratch the surface, and she's not all bad.. We have found a way to co-exist together, even happily.. Except sex.. That's a topic we just don't discuss anymore and haven't for years.. She generally shuts sex conversation down, or disengages from the conversation by the way of one-word answers and input.. In the end, I separated our marriage and sex (well, she did IMO), so I treat them as such.. Our marriage works at home without sex, and my sex life works outside home without her..
Thank you for clarifying.. So she knows you stray?
 
My lovely wife is very open to trying new sexual things, and our sex life is great.. But she has already told me cuckolding is something she definitely will NOT do, and I respect that.. Nonetheless, seeing her take a bigger penis is still my fantasy, so this is what we do as a substitue..

I decided that the next best thing I could do was to purchase what's known as a penis extender (it make your penis bigger and fatter) and surprise her with it.. The first night I used it, I had it hidden under the bed and the lights were off.. When I was giving her oral I put it on, lube it, and once she was really wet I put it in.. She gasp and asked, " What did you do?".. I replied, "Enjoy the moment.. We'll talk later," and began to pound her with it.. It was OBVIOUS she enjoyed it.. She had never moaned the way she did that night..
Afterwards, to my surprise, she said she still prefers to "feel" me instead of plastic, although she did admit she liked it very much.. I told her I would use it only when she felt like it, and she agreed.. After all, the hotwife should be in control.. The first time she asked for it she told me "invite your friend.." Boy that sounded hot!!! Now that is the nickname we use for it, "The Friend.." Unfortunately, she doesn't ask for it as often as I would like.. But it's still better than nothing, and when we do use it, it's evident she feels the difference, and that alone makes me feel like a real cuckold..

If your wife refuses to become a hotwife, how do you fulfill your fantasy?
I never thought my wife would.. Till I told her one day I had a dream.. A dream, we went to a vacation spot.. And describe all the fun you two would be having.. Get her built up, and then tell her, "We were skinny dipping in a pool, messing around, I started kissing you, working my way over to your ear, down to the nape of your neck, taking of your top, sucking on the other ear.. Playing with a breast.. Then......out of nowhere....out of the darkness, and hand starts playing with the other breast.." I took it that far, and I saw her eyes light up! I knew then I was on the right track..