My wife was very conservative when we first got together. I didn't think she would ever agree to anything beyond us for years. When I started to have these fantasies I kept them to myself at first because I was afraid it would make her feel a certain way about me. After being married for a few years I started to share my fantasy with her and, although she wouldn't participate, she let me know she was ok with me having the fantasies. But I always got "don't expect it to ever happen" response from her. I didn't realize it but I was planting the seeds as mentioned above. For several years it didn't seem to be going anywhere so I began to settle on it never happening. Then one night in a bar we were joking around and started to play, who would you do. We would take turns picking out people at the bar and ask each other which would we pick to fuck if we had to. We had to pick one and then we would explain why we picked that person. The answers we gave was sometimes funny, but always interesting and we learned some things about each other we didn't know. This started to give me some hope again as she seemed edger to play this game when ever the two of us went out. To my surprise, one night, she asked how far would I really be willing to go. When it was her turn to answer she started with, "this may surprise you, but in the right situation, maybe." BINGO!!! For the next several nights at home we talked about what we would be willing to try and what would be unacceptable. All of a sudden we were on swinger sites building our profile and were soon immersed in the lifestyle. My point is, I was in that situation and planted those seeds. I never got pushy or upset at her responses or lack of a response, but gently kept at it. I was lucky that she finally agreed to try and she enjoyed it, more so than she ever thought she would. But at the same time, you have to be prepared to accept that she may never come around. In fact, I would say chances are she won't, and you need to be ok with that. After all, she should be much more important than any of this. I look forward to hearing how it turns out for you guys.