SHOT DOWN Am I wasting my time, Or do I need to keep trying to get her to fuck another man?

Interesting take. So do you advise picking someone with great body but not too good looking because otherwise they might like it too much? That is part of the turn on for me. The idea that this might be dangerous or has the potential to be dangerous in the sense that what if she just falls in love with this guys dick instead of mine. The idea of her taking a guys virginity is a crazy super hot fantasy for me. I remember that when my wife and I first met she worked in a large rental office of hundreds of apartments and there was a high school kid that would come in and talk with her. There was also an old man who took her out to lunch and would flirt with her, but she did it to be nice and nothing came of it. The high school kid would come in and talk with her to her about his girlfriends. I remember when that was happening I had tons of fantasies about her surprising the kid and fucking his brains out to teach him how to be with a woman. Then there was also a young 20 year old college kid that taught my (now step ......) swimming lessons, and I remember fantasizing about the young 20 year old kid fucking my then girlfriend and now wife. Right now, I would settle for anyone that would inspire her to fuck her first bull or guy outside our marriage.
Well the idea of picking an underdog guy would be more for her, in the sense that it might possibly make it easier and more comfortable for her to open up, along with the mindset for her to think of it more as a, sort of random act of kindness, and/or she should almost feel like it’s kind of like an obligation on her part, to share something she has that is so absolutely amazing, and is just too damn good to keep it a hidden secret from others. That she’s, “forgive me for saying,” being selfish, if you will by not sharing herself. Lol. Oh I totally agree, I always remind Robin not only what a turn on it is for me, but of course, either the young or older guy, but that she needs to know just exactly how much of a special treat she’s truly giving them!! In the beginning when we met, I would constantly tell her, just how unbelievably amazing her pussy really is! You see, Robin is the complete package! She’s an ICU Nurse, she’s tall and slender, long legs, blonde hair with big blue eyes, the softest hands and touch and the most soothing yet erotic voice I’ve ever heard! I will actually get a hard on just from hearing her voice over the phone, and like I already mentioned before, the absolute best smelling, best tasting and the finest feeling pussy I’ve ever had the pleasure of experiencing!! I should mention that this isn’t coming from a guy that’s only been with a handful of women. I’ve been with probably over 200 women throughout my life! First off, I resemble Kurt Russell, especially when I was younger, and I dance like a male stripper! Lol! I’m actually very serious!! I can’t even count how many times I’ve been propositioned to work as a male stripper, male ...... and even a Chippendales dancer! Lol! 😂 So as you can imagine, I know something special when I find it! All that being said, I most certainly love it more when it’s a hot, good looking stud! One thing, because I know she enjoys it more, especially knowing that all these girls are after him and that he can, in fact, have any girl he wants, but chooses Robin over them all! But the BEST part is already knowing beforehand, that he’s about to have an experience he’ll never forget, and most definitely will want again!! I’ve won so many bets because of her, betting that she can give some guy a hard on just by her dancing with them, and especially that she can even make them cum in their own pants, just from her dancing! What she does is amazing and I’ve never met a woman that could do that to me! Your wife is absolutely stunning and I could only imagine how amazing you must think she would look, being with another guy!
 
Can you read and tell me if you think I should still pursue or hang the idea up of getting her to cuckold me or be a hotwife?

It has really been since before we were married since we went to a swing club. We only did soft swap but both of us did oral sex with others.

Before we were married we went to swingers clubs in Paris and a few in the states and we had a sex swing and would roll play constantly and fuck in public and we were wild.

However, we are still relatively kinky, but not quite like we used to be. We still have great sex, but the pandemic I think has caused stress and that stress fucks up the mood for sex. We have never stopped roll playing about her fucking other guys. When she comes, and she is ready to stop fucking, she will talk really dirty and call me another guys name. This has never stopped in our relationship since the beginning.

BUT 3 weeks ago, I got really encouraged again, because I said, "I am serious, I would really actually love it if you fucked another guy" and she asked if she could pick the guy out. I said yes then dropped it.

We got ...... Friday and we took this sex fantasy quiz that says what your fantasies are and then it shows you results. I was disappointed because it did not says she was willing to swing or fuck another guy at all. I said, that I was hoping that she would say she would based upon what she said a few weeks ago. She blew off that she said that a few weeks ago, and said that she absolutely does not want to fuck another guy because she is a mom and married now. This goes to her weird dichotomy of being Italian/Catholic (Not practicing) where the ethic is to never cheat, be loyal to family, and be a total slut in the bedroom for your husband. So mix between old school values and being a wild slut.

She got kind of pissy with me for bringing this up and acted like I was a jerk for to even suggest my wife and we are married, Bla Blah. Then the next morning she said she was sorry for being so pissy about it. However, she didn't then take back her position. She was still sticking to, we are married now, so I don't want to fuck outside my marriage.

I worked with the cuckold consultant a few years back and I am just looking at his personalized plan. I am thinking I went to fast now. I am thinking that I have to strengthen our sex life and intimacy and also also give her the underlying reasons why I want this.

What is weird is that Saturday night, she asked if she could have a personal trainer at home. I think she really wants one. I said, sure if you pic a hot one and have sex with him. She said, "well in that case, do I get to pick the trainer out" and I said "hell yes". Again, she said, "Ok."

I am not sure if I am trying to fit a square peg in a round hole here.

Has anyone ran into lots of rejections by your wife, but then finally got her to fuck another guy? If that is the case, what advise can you give?

Thanks!

Again this is her..



Wow she is dam hot sexy and full of honey figure lady.i really wanna sex and lick her pussy Deeply and eat
 
Well the idea of picking an underdog guy would be more for her, in the sense that it might possibly make it easier and more comfortable for her to open up, along with the mindset for her to think of it more as a, sort of random act of kindness, and/or she should almost feel like it’s kind of like an obligation on her part, to share something she has that is so absolutely amazing, and is just too damn good to keep it a hidden secret from others. That she’s, “forgive me for saying,” being selfish, if you will by not sharing herself. Lol. Oh I totally agree, I always remind Robin not only what a turn on it is for me, but of course, either the young or older guy, but that she needs to know just exactly how much of a special treat she’s truly giving them!! In the beginning when we met, I would constantly tell her, just how unbelievably amazing her pussy really is! You see, Robin is the complete package! She’s an ICU Nurse, she’s tall and slender, long legs, blonde hair with big blue eyes, the softest hands and touch and the most soothing yet erotic voice I’ve ever heard! I will actually get a hard on just from hearing her voice over the phone, and like I already mentioned before, the absolute best smelling, best tasting and the finest feeling pussy I’ve ever had the pleasure of experiencing!! I should mention that this isn’t coming from a guy that’s only been with a handful of women. I’ve been with probably over 200 women throughout my life! First off, I resemble Kurt Russell, especially when I was younger, and I dance like a male stripper! Lol! I’m actually very serious!! I can’t even count how many times I’ve been propositioned to work as a male stripper, male ...... and even a Chippendales dancer! Lol! 😂 So as you can imagine, I know something special when I find it! All that being said, I most certainly love it more when it’s a hot, good looking stud! One thing, because I know she enjoys it more, especially knowing that all these girls are after him and that he can, in fact, have any girl he wants, but chooses Robin over them all! But the BEST part is already knowing beforehand, that he’s about to have an experience he’ll never forget, and most definitely will want again!! I’ve won so many bets because of her, betting that she can give some guy a hard on just by her dancing with them, and especially that she can even make them cum in their own pants, just from her dancing! What she does is amazing and I’ve never met a woman that could do that to me! Your wife is absolutely stunning and I could only imagine how amazing you must think she would look, being with another guy!
btweets,

Thanks for the continuous incite and sharing your story. Your wife sounds stunning. Your in a place I hope to get soon.
 
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btweets,

Thanks for the continuous incite and sharing your story. Your wife sounds stunning. Your in a place I hope to get soon.
Thank you and you’re most welcome! I hope that the both of you can get there too, you’re both going to truly enjoy it, I can promise you that!
 
Last night I had great sex with my wife. My plan is to get her to fuck another man very soon. She has mentioned me getting her a personal trainer. I found a dude who is this super muscular guy who is right up her ally. But I am almost a little scared to hire him. Its like feeling like I am on a knifes edge and its a turn on. The other night she mentioned that her high school reunion is in August. She said she wanted to go. She suggested going alone. I got jealous. Not sure why but I said I wanted to go. I think she enjoys seeing me jealous...its a turn on to be desired. Then last night I asked if she was serous about wanting to go and she said no. I know for a fact she has went to like 2 other ones so she obviously enjoyed going. So, perhaps that is her way of shutting down a fantasy that may seem overwhelming. She has expressed that if we lived in Paris (1st time we did soft swap stuff in crazy swing clubs there) that she would be worried I would just want her to go all the time. I said no, but just every once and a while. Then she quizzed me about how much would be enough. So she is obviously thinking about really doing this because we have 4 kids, I have very serious career here in Chicago, and no plans to move to Paris. I think she wanted to know how far I would take it. She I think also has a fear that I love the fantasy more than I love her. I don't but truth is that they are inseparable from each other in my mind, because even when we are not having kinky sex, I am fantasizing about her fucking other guys EVERY time. I think she wants to feel adored by me. But Why quiz me extensively about how often we would go to the swing club in Paris if we lived there, unless she wants to get a handle on "if I as his wife fuck another guy, how much will he want to do this, I don't want it to take over our marriage or ruin things." I suppose I have same fears but they turn me on. It is the insecurity of her being so wild, that I don't know what she would do, that really is a rush for me.

Anyway, I fell asleep watching TV, and I was not even sure I was going to get laid until she put up her hair which means blow job. I got an incredible blow job. She came right away and I went down on her a bunch. Then when it was time for me to cum at the end, I spread her legs so she was missionary but doing the splits. I then asked, "is this how your are going to fuck at your high school reunion?" At first she said, "NO...." Then a pause as she is moaning and really turned on. Then, "YES....yes this is how I will fuck them." I asked, "tell me their names who you are going to fuck." She goes, " there are two of them, one I did not fuck in before but the other I fucked in high school and he had a huge fucking dick." She is moaning and saying, "his dick is so fuckijng big, he is so big (meaning his body as she likes huge football player types." I asked if she was going to be his dirty whore and she said "yes." I kept asking, "what is his name, please tell me." We are both really into it and moaning and she keeps saying, "I can't, no, I can't no." I keep asking "tell me his name." She kept saying, "no". This was a big turn on, because she could have just made up a name if she was just faking the story. But I really think she has someone in mind.

I need to pull the trigger on the personal trainer and then get her to go to the reunion.

Until then, I will play it cool. I am only going to bring this ...... up after she has had a few glasses of wine.

I can see if she had the trainer that we could have a fuck session about the trainer just like we did the high school reunion. The plan would be to not bring it up, tell her one time she can fuck him, and then drop it. Then when her pussy is super wet and we are having crazy good sex right after her first orgasim I would say, "is this how you want your trainer to fuck you." Then not mention it the next day. We will see if it happens. Worried if I don't explain she can never loose me and why this would be cool with me that she won't go through with it. I am actually worried she may like this trainer too much.
 
Last night I had great sex with my wife. My plan is to get her to fuck another man very soon. She has mentioned me getting her a personal trainer. I found a dude who is this super muscular guy who is right up her ally. But I am almost a little scared to hire him. Its like feeling like I am on a knifes edge and its a turn on. The other night she mentioned that her high school reunion is in August. She said she wanted to go. She suggested going alone. I got jealous. Not sure why but I said I wanted to go. I think she enjoys seeing me jealous...its a turn on to be desired. Then last night I asked if she was serous about wanting to go and she said no. I know for a fact she has went to like 2 other ones so she obviously enjoyed going. So, perhaps that is her way of shutting down a fantasy that may seem overwhelming. She has expressed that if we lived in Paris (1st time we did soft swap stuff in crazy swing clubs there) that she would be worried I would just want her to go all the time. I said no, but just every once and a while. Then she quizzed me about how much would be enough. So she is obviously thinking about really doing this because we have 4 kids, I have very serious career here in Chicago, and no plans to move to Paris. I think she wanted to know how far I would take it. She I think also has a fear that I love the fantasy more than I love her. I don't but truth is that they are inseparable from each other in my mind, because even when we are not having kinky sex, I am fantasizing about her fucking other guys EVERY time. I think she wants to feel adored by me. But Why quiz me extensively about how often we would go to the swing club in Paris if we lived there, unless she wants to get a handle on "if I as his wife fuck another guy, how much will he want to do this, I don't want it to take over our marriage or ruin things." I suppose I have same fears but they turn me on. It is the insecurity of her being so wild, that I don't know what she would do, that really is a rush for me.

Anyway, I fell asleep watching TV, and I was not even sure I was going to get laid until she put up her hair which means blow job. I got an incredible blow job. She came right away and I went down on her a bunch. Then when it was time for me to cum at the end, I spread her legs so she was missionary but doing the splits. I then asked, "is this how your are going to fuck at your high school reunion?" At first she said, "NO...." Then a pause as she is moaning and really turned on. Then, "YES....yes this is how I will fuck them." I asked, "tell me their names who you are going to fuck." She goes, " there are two of them, one I did not fuck in before but the other I fucked in high school and he had a huge fucking dick." She is moaning and saying, "his dick is so fuckijng big, he is so big (meaning his body as she likes huge football player types." I asked if she was going to be his dirty whore and she said "yes." I kept asking, "what is his name, please tell me." We are both really into it and moaning and she keeps saying, "I can't, no, I can't no." I keep asking "tell me his name." She kept saying, "no". This was a big turn on, because she could have just made up a name if she was just faking the story. But I really think she has someone in mind.

I need to pull the trigger on the personal trainer and then get her to go to the reunion.

Until then, I will play it cool. I am only going to bring this ...... up after she has had a few glasses of wine.

I can see if she had the trainer that we could have a fuck session about the trainer just like we did the high school reunion. The plan would be to not bring it up, tell her one time she can fuck him, and then drop it. Then when her pussy is super wet and we are having crazy good sex right after her first orgasim I would say, "is this how you want your trainer to fuck you." Then not mention it the next day. We will see if it happens. Worried if I don't explain she can never loose me and why this would be cool with me that she won't go through with it. I am actually worried she may like this trainer too much.

 
WOW!! JUST WOW!! You’re one hell of a lucky guy! She’s absolutely gorgeous and very sexy! I would definitely push her to go to the reunion, I think there’s a huge chance she already has one or maybe even two guys in mind, should the opportunity present itself, and most importantly, that she truly knows you truly want this for her, and how much better and stronger it will make your relationship, so long as she is completely and openly honest with you, and doesn’t hold back any details. It’s then up to you, that you’ll have to be totally fine hearing everything she confesses, and showing nothing less than the upmost appreciation towards her for turning your fantasy, and hopefully deep down, hers too, into a reality.
 
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Can you read and tell me if you think I should still pursue or hang the idea up of getting her to cuckold me or be a hotwife?

It has really been since before we were married since we went to a swing club. We only did soft swap but both of us did oral sex with others.

Before we were married we went to swingers clubs in Paris and a few in the states and we had a sex swing and would roll play constantly and fuck in public and we were wild.

However, we are still relatively kinky, but not quite like we used to be. We still have great sex, but the pandemic I think has caused stress and that stress fucks up the mood for sex. We have never stopped roll playing about her fucking other guys. When she comes, and she is ready to stop fucking, she will talk really dirty and call me another guys name. This has never stopped in our relationship since the beginning.

BUT 3 weeks ago, I got really encouraged again, because I said, "I am serious, I would really actually love it if you fucked another guy" and she asked if she could pick the guy out. I said yes then dropped it.

We got ...... Friday and we took this sex fantasy quiz that says what your fantasies are and then it shows you results. I was disappointed because it did not says she was willing to swing or fuck another guy at all. I said, that I was hoping that she would say she would based upon what she said a few weeks ago. She blew off that she said that a few weeks ago, and said that she absolutely does not want to fuck another guy because she is a mom and married now. This goes to her weird dichotomy of being Italian/Catholic (Not practicing) where the ethic is to never cheat, be loyal to family, and be a total slut in the bedroom for your husband. So mix between old school values and being a wild slut.

She got kind of pissy with me for bringing this up and acted like I was a jerk for to even suggest my wife and we are married, Bla Blah. Then the next morning she said she was sorry for being so pissy about it. However, she didn't then take back her position. She was still sticking to, we are married now, so I don't want to fuck outside my marriage.

I worked with the cuckold consultant a few years back and I am just looking at his personalized plan. I am thinking I went to fast now. I am thinking that I have to strengthen our sex life and intimacy and also also give her the underlying reasons why I want this.

What is weird is that Saturday night, she asked if she could have a personal trainer at home. I think she really wants one. I said, sure if you pic a hot one and have sex with him. She said, "well in that case, do I get to pick the trainer out" and I said "hell yes". Again, she said, "Ok."

I am not sure if I am trying to fit a square peg in a round hole here.

Has anyone ran into lots of rejections by your wife, but then finally got her to fuck another guy? If that is the case, what advise can you give?

Thanks!

Again this is her..



beautiful lady, good luck
 
This is a previous response but applicable here. Tell her that exploring sexual experiences is a natural thing, the old attitudes and taboos were instilled by very conservative people, continuously trying to inflict their personal viewpoint and exert their standards on you, using their will trying to control how you think and act. Recognize the oppression they are trying to forse upon you and society, their way is the only way is BS, they know what's right and what's wrong for you is more BS. Do not give them that control, that power of governing your thoughts and decisions, trying to enforce their viewpoints of morality on you. Be your own person, do what you want to do without guilt, be bold and go for the opportunities that life presents! Life is to short to be held back by restrictive, limited attitudes that never allowed true freedom of thought and pleasures, if it's thought-provoking, exciting, stimulating, and gets you worked up then go for the opportunity to really experience life, do not hold back, live your fantasies, the greatest regret is not what you have done but what you didn't do forever wondering what if I had done that. You own it to yourself to embrace your desires, to engage your opportunities for sexual satisfaction, live your live by your own guidelines not someone else's opinions. Are you willing to miss extremely rewarding opportunities because you fear other peoples negative attitudes towards your personal choices? Something to consider, just my thoughts.
 
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